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We are made of the same stardust of which all things are made - Carlo Rovelli


Andrew

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Larry

All right, Mr. Keller, before the pandemic, it seemed that maybe we all thought different parts of the world we're all on their own, like the Russians got a dictator who cares? Sudan's in a civil war. Good luck with that. Then comes the Coronavirus. And we realize that if there's a flu that kills people in China, we're all in this together. Which brings us to our quote today, from a lovely Italian physicist named Carlo Rovelli, he brought a tiny little book called The seven brief lessons on physics. And he says, We are all made of the same Stardust of which all things are made. And when we are all immensely immersed, that isn't suffering, or when we are all experienced intense joy. We are being nothing other than what we can help to be a part of the world. So have you ever heard this term? We come from Stardust that did that ever mean anything to you?


Andrew

I've never really heard the term start us it kind of makes me think of the people that recharge their crystals with the moonlight, but not really start us Ashes to ashes and dust and to dust. I've heard that which i think it's it's kind of a astrological take on on the Christian based theory.


Larry

I've been reading this amazing book, it's called the short history of nearly everything. Let me just give you like 42nd version of this in three minutes after the Big Bang 98% of all matter that ever existed, came into existence three minutes Big Bang. 98% of matter. Matter is basically atoms. Atoms are the building block for existence. Put atoms together, you get molecules like two atoms, two hydrogen atoms to one oxygen atom, you get water. Atoms never die. They actually don't know how long atoms exist. But statistically speaking, it's so long that atoms never exist. So they basically just reincarnate, reincarnate themselves, they go, obviously, from a planet, I mean, a star to the universe to our planet, maybe through a leaf, maybe through Shakespeare himself, maybe through a teepee, and then they become part of you. So essentially, science says, We are really all made from stardust. And we are all kind of interconnected.


Andrew

A few things to say I would be remiss not to point out atoms are made up of protons, electrons and neutrons. Well,


Larry

we could go smarter than that. And by the way, if you want to go, we can go into corks, too. But


Andrew

yes, I also want to point out that I love that you boiled a short book down to something even shorter. I like this, we've kind of been dealing with this. I mean, the other day, we talked about Morpheus, what is real? If we're just startups do what like what matters? I mean, it kind of sounds like what this startup thing there is some version of reincarnation like, which is a Hindu, what I don't know what religion has, has the reincarnation but like, if you aren't doing well, in this life, you're going to come back as a sewer rat. Right? So I mean, what do you think about that? Like, is that? What's the point? If we're all just start us?


Larry

Well, I think the point to me is, and I've heard that term before, I'd heard multiple people saying I was like, how in the world are we? How do we come from startups, that makes like zero sense. But if you break it down to atoms and molecules, it really makes sense, according to science, that we are all part of the same. And it's like, you know, those people do those DNA tests, where they're like, Oh, I'm from a tribe in Germany, and you're like, Well, how do they figure that out? There's like a lineage, you can tell through molecules that we all kind of came from somewhere, and essentially, ultimately, the stars. I know, that seems weird. But science says it's true.


Andrew

Yeah, I mean, that genealogy 23andme thing is pretty cool. You have these genetic markers, which kind of, you can look back. For me, I like this quote. And I think it's interesting. But I feel like I take a couple minutes, I think about it. I'm like, Alright, got it. And I have to move on with my day. Because I could get wrapped up in this and be like, well, what's the point? If I am start us and I'm going to go back into B into nothing? Like it makes being productive throughout my day difficult. So what's the balance between being like, well, this is interesting, and I have to file my taxes.


Larry

So I'll follow your question about the question. So how much just someone else's pain or joy? How does that affect you like on the macro and the minor, like a friend of yours is in pain? How do deeply Do you feel that pain with them? Or if a community, a church or whatever it is, how much do you feel part of that too? And I'm asking you not in the big way, but the you specifically?


Andrew

I think it depends but It did make me think I see that I see how this quote applies to that, like, we are all connected. As you introduce us, it's like there's genocide happening. How much does that affect me? versus how much does my brother breaking his leg affect me? Like, those are going to be different? But like, should it be different? Because we're all the same? Or how much should I hate someone on the other side of the political aisle than me? Maybe maybe they're not that different, like, we are all the same people. And even sewer rats, we're all made from the same stardust.


Larry

You know, I was totally thinking of that perspective of you see these people rushing the Capitol, and maybe that makes your blood boil, and you're like, well, that's not me. I'm not some Southern crazy person from Arkansas. But if you take into the context of that, we all come from the same Stardust, they are part of me. Now America is a little different, cuz we're all kind of from all over to begin with, right? It does help you build a connection to those people that you don't think you represent you at all.


Andrew

The weird thing with the storm of the Capitol is I played football with a guy who got he he live streamed it, he was at the Capitol, he got tear gas. He's a lawyer, he lost his job, there was all sorts of hate getting thrown at him, he got off of Facebook, whether people should have been mean to him or not like I have a different connection to him. Like I played football with him, we have a shared difficult experience. And that shouldn't be the only thing. We have the same startups so and so like, it's weird, I look at it. I thought about the whole thing differently being like, Oh, I know someone that did that. Versus Oh, that's just a bunch of crazies. It's easy to just dismiss be like, Oh, they don't have anything to do with me. They're from the south, or they're from the west coast, or they're from the northeast, like, they don't know, they're crazy. But you can, even if I told them the micro level, you can find a connection with everything.


Larry

And I love how you said that. And it's true because I I hear these q&a on people. And I'm like, you guys are insane. Like you're not even a human being you're like, I don't even know what you're doing. But there's got there's a connection of humanity. But there's also a connection of America. And you if you look at like what happened, like, why are people in the I'm saying the South so disenfranchised with government that they would rather storm the capitals, because their systems have been interrupted. There's no more manufacturing jobs. They feel left alone. They feel like nobody cares for them. So much so that they were like, I don't care if they get me on camera, and I get arrested for rush the capital.


Andrew

Yeah, I think my takeaway from what we're talking about today is be a little bit slower to judge. Oh, so I was telling that story. But the guy played football with one of my other friends is from Texas. And our third friend was like, Oh, I wish I had some crazy people in my Facebook feed to like, fill these things. I was like, you're from Seattle, dude. Do you have chairs and chop? Like there are? He's like, Oh, yeah. And so it's very quick to like, I'm from Texas, you can throw me like, oh, crazy. It's live in Texas. And I can say the same thing. And maybe I need to step off the gas a little bit.


Larry

I used to think because of our shared humanity, like the great movie Independence Day that if aliens came to take over the world, humanity would band together to fight off the aliens because we, I suppose aliens have our same Stardust, too. So I don't have I don't know where that goes. I used to think that we would all band together because we shared the same stardust. However, I've recently come to believe because of this pandemic. All you hear about is we're making the vaccine for America we're making like it's not. We're not all in this together. We're like, we're all in this so that America gets a vaccine.


Andrew

Yeah, I mean, early on Russia was given the vaccine and we were like, oh, you're crazy. You can't be here. Then. When you think of Independence Day. What's the first thing Wait, no, it was the Independence Day.


Larry

I think that was the wheeled Smith vehicle. That


Andrew

was the Will Smith was the Ben Affleck one.


Larry

He was in it at all Armageddon,


Andrew

Armageddon. When you say I thought of the animal crackers, I think of animal crackers when


Larry

I think of Armageddon. Listen, I know you're an actor and you're in the business and you don't get blackballed, but any Bruckheimer vehicle is really not worth the salt that you shake it on. That's not true. Terminator, not Terminator. What's the one of the cars turning the robots? Ai robot? Now? They did a series Bumblebee, transformers, transformers. Those movies are horrible. Well, all right. Listen, I will say this. My Stardust is not connected to Bruckheimer. Let me just I'm gonna go on the record say that. I'm crazy, Chris. That guy's kooky.


Andrew

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