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Trust Is NOT Earned. It Is NOT Given. Trust IS GROWN!


Andrew

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Every morning Larry and I dig into a footwear idea that has caught our eye. Our hope is that our chat inspires you to never stop thinking and possibly challenges you in a new way. If you'd like to help support the show, please visit patreon.com slash repost it. Thank you for stopping by. All right, I'm going to stop pretending This is the fourth time we've tried to record this episode. And it was based on an article we found on LinkedIn called trust is not earned. Trust is not given. Trust is grown. It's written by William Clawson, I had so many different things I want to talk about, but maybe the internet not working and us restarting was a sign to say, Larry, I trust that every day when we record that you're going to bring it. And I appreciate that. And I think that was something that we've grown over time together.


Larry

And I'm going to trust that you are going to do everything in your power for the benefit of the show, which you proven to me that you just drive us to record every day and be the best we can. And I trust you in that.


Unknown Speaker

Yes,


Unknown Speaker

I appreciate that. This


Andrew

is the most feel good episode we've ever done. We love each other so much. But I think it's the article. I've said it four times now. But it's interesting that the concept that it's grown, because it's a lot of times people say it's it's earned or it's given, I think I'm a little bit jaded, and I would lean towards more that trust is given. But then when you kind of think about it, it's a two way street. Like you have to give someone trust and they also have to earn it. So that's why I think this analogy of growth is more important with the acorn sprouting.


Larry

You know, I think it's a capo both. It's true, both given and you receive it. But you know, I asked you this earlier, I think in our live our second time recording this, can you trust someone immediately and I was thinking about it, you can because we trust a policeman. Like we see a policeman we trust him? Or maybe there's probably a large populations of people that don't trust policemen instantly.


Andrew

Yeah, I think that's interesting, though, because people trust or don't trust, sometimes based on nothing like politics today, as we record this, the President Elect is being inaugurated, it might be done at this point. But people have never met Joe Biden. And some people are gonna trust them. And some people aren't based on things that they've read, like never having experienced a person. The example I thought of earlier was like, if I needed someone to house it for me, and I just knocked on someone's door and said, Hey, I'm gonna be out of town we haven't met but we make sure my house is okay. That might be a little bit foolish to blindly trust someone you've never met. That's more of a micro example. So I guess I'm just pushing back a little bit on on what you're saying?


Larry

No, it's interesting. You think about like you moved into a new neighborhood, do you instantly trust your neighbors, or over time, and but the funny thing about that is, whether you do or you don't, you don't have a choice, because they live next to you.


Andrew

Yeah, and I guess there's also the the point of like, for your mental health, you do have to make a choice. Because if you don't trust anyone, ever, you're going to put a tinfoil hat on and you're not going to leave your house. If you trust everyone, implicitly, you're gonna get taken advantage by some people. So it's like, you have to use your best judgment to be able to get through things. And I guess your life experiences can can get you there, I guess. What do you teach your kids about trust? In the first version of this episode, we talked about your kids, but like, you have kids that are all under the age of 15. Like, don't trust strangers, right? Like, if someone has a primered van with no windows and they want to give you a lollipop. Maybe that's not a good idea.


Larry

Come on in kids. I hope that my kids get out of me, which is what I do. It's the old saying it's trust, but verify. Like you have to, I feel like if you ask a human being a couple of questions, you can get a general idea. Now there's some good content out there. But I would say like if you ask some pretty pointed questions, feel like he can route about 80% of the people, whether they're trustworthy or not. And I hope that's what my kids got to me, like, just kind of taking the lay of the land. Once again, I'm a middle kid. So I observed way more than I talk, observe, ask you a few questions. And and I feel like you got a pretty good size of the situation and the person.


Andrew

Yeah, and I guess there's also levels of trust, like do you trust someone enough to stand next to them on the sidewalk? Do you trust someone enough to cook a meal for you? Do you trust someone enough to watch your kids or whatever, so like, I guess there's different tiers of it. And that's why the growth, the growth works.


Larry

I'll never forget I was interviewing one of these since the inauguration is going to you brought that up. I was interviewing a big time journalist in DC A while ago named drop, and I was saying like when someone gives you a scoop, you know What do you do with that? And his first, he was always like, why are they giving you a scoop? Why should you trust what they tell you? Because everybody has an agenda, right? You have to ferret out. Even I mean, so I'm kind of a fake journalist. But I'm definitely skeptical until you prove me wrong. And I don't know if that's the right way or the wrong way. But I'm definitely skeptical until you prove me right.


Andrew

I guess also staying on the political theme. It's like with social media, now you have to be skeptical of information that you read like this is going to be sad, or that's going to be said, and it can be misleading. So do you trust Facebook?


Larry

I mean, that's a funny question, right? Who'd fully trust social media, right? Because you're only getting one side of thing. I mean, I think that's part of the problem with our society, right? People just fully inherently trust social media.


Andrew

Right. And this just hit me. I started the show off by saying, I trust you. And your social media does not list the correct birthday for you. And I told you happy birthday. And you said, You're a jerk. You don't know my birthday. Because I trusted social media on someone I even trust. Like, there's misinformation everywhere. So don't trust everything you read,


Larry

you know, just kind of the opposite of this. A friend of mine, maybe you know, but he went to the Jewish, Israel, you know, where Moses roamed the earth. I don't know what you'd call that like the Sinai desert, I suppose that is Sinai desert. And they have a they have a people called the Bedouin people and they just roam that's To this day, they still just roam the desert. And if you bump into them, regardless of who you are, they invite you in and they feed you, they instantly trust you, even though I have no idea who you are. Because in the desert, if you don't take somebody in, they'll die. And it might be you this wandering a desert, and you need to be taken in. Even though these there could be warring tribes or whatever. It's like, how I just think society has changed. I'm a skeptic. In the old days, they trusted people first are try our times have changed.


Andrew

That's really interesting, because they probably don't have an agenda. And I probably trust people less because I have an agenda, whether I need to go get gas in my car, like I can't be bothered with you right now. Because I have to get somewhere. So maybe stop worrying about yourself so much. And if you're more community centric, you can trust more.


Larry

Well, I mean, that's society, right? Like if you don't have trust, I mean, it just wasn't gonna go anywhere. And I feel like that's kind of the tribal part that we're losing in societies that we trust each other less.


Andrew

Yeah. Despite the internet's best efforts, we got a show recorded today. Thank you so much for tuning tuning in. If you want to follow us, you can find us on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram. I'm Andrew Keller for the little Engine That Could and thanks for stopping by


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