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To be burned out is to be used up, like a battery.


Andrew

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Andrew Keller

Every morning Larry and I dig into a form or idea that has caught our eye. Our hope is that our chat inspires you to never stop thinking and possibly challenges you in a new way. If you'd like to help support the show, please visit patreon.com slash reposted. Thank you for stopping by.


Larry

Mr. Keller read an interesting article in The New Yorker. It was entitled burnout, modern affliction or human condition. Here's the quote, to be burned out is to be used up like a battery so depleted that it can't be recharged. And people on like batteries, it is said to produce the defining symptoms of burnout syndrome, exhaustion, cynicism and loss of efficiency. Have you suffered from burnout in your life?


Andrew Keller

I have suffered from burnout, physical and mental. I think this isn't I did yesterday, physically, I was doing a lot of work around the house getting ready for some construction to happen today. And I had to do a lot of manual labor. By the end of the day, I was physically and mentally burned out. But I think people I think that's interesting modern affliction or human condition, because I think the modern affliction might be people are mentally burned out, but don't aren't willing to admit it. Because there's not a direct cause and effect like running a marathon marathon or something like that. Have you? Are you tired?


Larry

I'm not tired now. But I have definitely been burned out. I was about five years ago, we had three kids in three different schools. So we're doing driving all around the city. I was working two jobs. I was working Monday to Friday, and was also working on the weekend. And we were under a lot of stress, because preschool was costing a lot of money for our last kid. And then on top of that, Auntie Lisa was getting married, so required my wife to be gone. It's been a lot of time with their family. I was hosted. I think my initial reaction to say is burnout is stupid. But I look back on that time I live burnout is real. If you are running the candle at both ends, you will be exhausted. You will have plenty of cynicism, and you'll have a loss of efficiency.


Andrew Keller

I just got married and we didn't spend that much time with family. So was that about?


Larry

I don't know. Well, once again, because like, you know, the she was her sister's bridesmaid. So she's throwing the bachelorette parties. She's throwing the showers. She's running interference for her mom. Like literally I remember that point be like, hey, you remember you have like three kids and another family as opposed to helping put on a wedding. I mean, some of is irrational, but a lot of it was just couldn't do any more.


Andrew Keller

She sounds like sounds like a crazy time. You said you thought it used to think it was stupid. I used to think that panic attacks were just in your mind until I had a panic attack in college. And I was like, oh, is real messed up. I put off studying for a test. I had just run a half marathon and I got home. And I was like, Alright, it's time to study and I felt a migraine coming on. And I had a full on panic attack. Like my heart was racing. I started losing feeling and my extremities called the ambulance went to the hospital. And like I didn't feel normal for about two weeks. So be slow to what you decide is ludicrous, is my takeaway from that? But yeah, burnout everywhere left and right.


Larry

You know, it's interesting in this article, it's something that I didn't think of I've read the Bible before, but they point out that Moses was burned out in numbers 11, it says, I'm not able to bear all of these people alone, because it is too heavy for me, also goes on to point out that burnout is not just a work thing, you could be burned out from even a church, it could be burnout in your marriage or burned out from friends.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, or if you lived in San Francisco in the late 60s, early 70s. You could be a burnout. It could be a bonus. Too much, you know, drugs.


Larry

I think what this article says to me is also that burnout is kind of a very American thing. For instance, like in Sweden, you can go on sick leave for burden, burnout, but Americans like I think we're proud like, man, I am burning at both ends. I'm working 15 hours a day. I don't think they say that around the world like we do. We're like almost proud that we burned ourselves to the ground.


Andrew Keller

I don't agree with that. I've never worked professionally in any other place than California. But I feel like maybe in the middle of the country. People are less braggadocious about how they work. I mean, New York I feel like is number one for bragging about how much you work and work life balances has recently in the past 20 years come into the conversation. So we're becoming more aware of it. But I think you're right that it is a very I want to say Western, but like you said the Scandinavian countries have different ways. I mean, people have mental health days, but I guess I don't know what yeah, I think


Larry

I think efficiency is the one key that I'd like to focus on a little bit. Because, you know, when you work so hard at something, you need to step away for your efficiency to ramp back up. There's all these statistics out there about how hard you work, as opposed to actually efficiently working. And if you work too much, you're actually hurting yourself from trying to get what you need to get done.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I mean, like I said, yesterday, I was doing that construction. And towards the end of the day, I was doing simple math calculations for doing the fractions of trying to frame something in and I just couldn't do basic math anymore. And it's like, I can physically move around and be awake, but you have diminishing returns on how hard you work. So yeah, saying I'm going to work all day isn't necessarily going to be the best way to be able to get something done taking a nap or taking a break is sometimes better than working.


Larry

Yeah. Cuz like, sort of reset your brain, you get a chance to like actually sleep and then your brain can work again? Or is it that you get a little perspective of what you've been doing?


Andrew Keller

I think it's more of you get sleep and restorative properties from taking a break than it is resetting your perspective. Sometimes that's it too. But also, we always talk about how it just depends on the person like the some people take advantage of, Oh, I need a mental health day, I feel like the people that take the mental health days aren't the ones that are burnt out. In general, like everyone's going to be different. Like, I don't think I would ever find myself working 100 hours a week for someone else, like working as a broker being like on the stock exchange.


Larry

But the hard part about that is though, is that all those people are working 100 hours a week, the people you work with? So you can't be the one to say like, Hey, you know what, guys? I'm gonna I'm gonna take today and take a personal thing. Yeah,


Andrew Keller

that's true. There's a little fun quiz that you can take in this article about are you burned out and have you become more increasingly irritable, and that's definitely the number one for me. That's for hangry or tired. I'm shorter with people. When I'm increasingly irritable.


Larry

Thank you for bringing hangry in today, cuz I feel like that's a factor. Just maybe you're a little Hank, maybe you don't have burnout. You're just hangry Yeah,


Andrew Keller

maybe I am hanging out. It was strange because I don't get it until the afternoon because I do intermittent fasting. I eat my dinner at seven. I don't eat again till noon at the earliest. I don't feel hungry. Then.


Larry

In the afternoon, I can get a hangry there's just those people that like do the the one meal a day. It's not a famous military like general he just eats once a day, and everybody else around it feels like they only have to eat once a day to just go to angry all day long.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, well, I mean, I guess that's a different show. But it works. Fasting is interesting. Oh. I feel burnt out. Yeah, I'm exhausted. If you want to share this show with someone please do that. They can find us at repost a podcast on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. I mean Andrew Keller for the Tokyo Drift.


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