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The Devil is in the Details


Andrew

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Every morning, Larry and I dig into a quote or idea that has caught our eye. Our hope is that our chat inspires you to never stop thinking and possibly challenges you in a new way. If you'd like to help support the show, please visit patreon.com slash repost it. Thank you for stopping by. I have a romantic notion that one day I'm going to go back and listen to some of these episodes and part of it I'll be able to look at what was happening in my life. This quotes I've been paying have been directly related to things I'm going through doing a home renovation and I heard this for the first time when I started my first job that's for my boss, it's the devil is in the details. There's so many little things that with like, I ordered a dishwasher and I thought my plumber couldn't stop. But I need to have an appliance person installed all these little things that always are piling up. And the more I've thought about this, I think that phrase mean something different to the personality type. We have different enneagram types. Nikolas is different than me, the devil in the details is probably what she lives by. I like to be detail oriented, you're probably a little bit less than me. But I'm curious, what is it mean to you? Or do you even think it's true?


Larry

Any chance was your boss and he said, Dude are two full spectrum?


Andrew

Yeah, that was when I worked in Dusseldorf. But I didn't understand German. And so I had to move back to the US.


Larry

I am definitely the king of non details. Because details are sort of meaningless, I guess, supposedly, in my life. But I'm getting worse because I'm married a very detail oriented person who takes care of all the details for me.


Andrew

Well, I guess you've been married for 1516 years, an unknown amount of years, 40 years ago, with the lack of attention to detail affect you in a positive or negative way?


Larry

Dude, both for sure. I mean, I was horrible at paying attention to details. You might I think the most common example is, you know, kids have to write out their math problems. Right. So how did you use not getting the right answer for hardcore algebra? You got to show how you got your answer. And that's details that matters, that they don't even care that you got the answer. Right. But do you know what you're doing?


Andrew

Yeah, I think I might be first in line to explain to the world why Larry Ellison is not good at details on how to love but to be fair, there is a attention to detail. Like when we have people on the show, you prep and you have the details. Like if you say if say we had Carli Lloyd on the show, you're like, What's it like being the goaltender for the US women's soccer team? That'd be embarrassing. So that, like it matters on every level of life.


Larry

I think the difference is, those are like data points, not details to me. Like, when I see someone's bio, I like to just like lack wide latch on to what I think is like a really important data point. So I think it's a little bit of a different difference there.


Andrew

But sounds like we're talking you're splitting hairs on that, Larry, Larry doesn't like details. But if two data points they're gonna stick.


Larry

Yes, certainly. Like, I'm like, I'm not a huge magazine. I'm not a huge book reader. Right. But I love magazines, because I feel like magazines give me bullet points, whereas books take forever to read. I think that's the difference with me.


Andrew

Well, I mean, I guess there's, there's not much else to get into the details are,


Larry

this is huge. Honestly, I listen, I married the perfect person, because she cares about details, so much so that it's almost like living with sleeping with the enemy. She can't have dinner in our room, if all of the cupboard doors aren't shut. If the blinds aren't the right way. If the cuffs aren't positioned in the right spot, if cups aren't put away, she literally will not she'll walk around the room. With the one dinner before all of the details are checked off. So she can eat.


Andrew

I want to take this opportunity to restate that sleeping with the enemy as a terrible movie. I think kind of you can kind of take a look at what's important to you and see what data points or what details stick like, I can see a car and pretty much tell you the year range in the name of the model. Because I think cars are interesting. Nicole could tell you zero. Or I could tell you how to get somewhere without using a map because I care about that type of stuff. So maybe the devil in the details is the things you don't care about is where bad things can happen. So if you know you don't care about the data points, maybe it's a reminder to be more intentional on what you're absorbing what you're working on.


Larry

Absolutely. I mean, of course details are important. Absolutely. But so is the 5000 foot view, right? Who it have to choose when to vacillate between what and it's easier for some people to do like my wife is very good at focusing on the details is hard for me to do. It's easier for me to look at the 5000 foot view and it's Like, when do we, when do I give up on her details? And when does she give to me the five. And that's the tension in our marriage. But I also think, individually, each person has to have that.


Andrew

Yeah, I think this could easily tack on to whatever personality tests you want to do. Like if you do an enneagram Myers Briggs personality test any of those. I think your attention to detail is a huge indicator of your personality type, like, I would guess I have no idea. I would guess that you do not like doing jigsaw puzzles


Larry

that I hate. Oh my god.


Andrew

I think Nicole and Karen are the same enneagram type. I think they're both ones. She's the one right? Yeah. And they she loves my sister in law gave Nicole a pre wedding present. I don't know what it was. She made a jigsaw puzzle out of our save the date. And Nicole was like, I'm gonna start it right now. I was like, I'm gonna do zero work on it.


Larry

How many pieces? I don't know. I


Andrew

think it's 500,000 Oh


Unknown Speaker

my gosh, that's


Andrew

so great. But 2000 piece puzzle and she loves it. I think I mean, old man. And he says I don't want to do it because I have to bend over and it hurts my back. But really, I just don't want to focus on the monotony of those details.


Larry

Did you go back I feel like the somewhat attributed this quote to Nietzsche a little bit. And then the variants on this quote is that God is in the details. And I really do think like details are important, like when you like when you like a car, for instance, right? When you flip up the hood of a car, and you see all of the things that go into make it work. That's like, it's amazing. When you look at details on thing and rest in it, it really is amazing, like, but for me, it could just overwhelm me like my brain just can't take all of that in. But details are amazing.


Andrew

I think your your brain can you said your love language on one of these shows, one of these days was gifts. And if I got you a Ficus and this gave it to you as a gift, that would mean anything but the deep thought that you went into, I don't know, if you like a Ficus or not. But like it can be as complex as a Swiss watch. Or it can be as simple as I know you like single batch bourbon, and there's like a detail or a thought that goes into that. Anyway, there's nothing super deep, but I just I thought it was interesting. And it plays into my life.


Larry

No, it's awesome. And I would just the last thing I would say is this, you whatever way you are, you're wired for details or not like it's good to do the other thing because it's good to stretch yourself. And I think your brain as you get older, needs to be stretched and not. So I do need to start doing puzzles. And I do need to start working on the details so that I can stretch my brain because I feel like that will last me way longer in life. Working my brain.


Andrew

Yeah, it's like working on dribbling with your left hand. If you want to be a basketball player. You work on the stuff you don't want to do. Yep. Because it's easier. Yeah. Well, if you want to work on your jump shot, please reach out. You can find us at repost ID podcast on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. I'm Andrew Keller for Jason Kidd and thanks for stopping by



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