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Revenge Bedtime Procrastination


Andrew

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Andrew Keller

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Larry

Mr. Keller. 62% of adults worldwide feel like they do not get enough sleep averaging 6.8 hours on a weeknight compared to the recommended amount of hours slept. BBC Online had a great article titled the psychology behind revenge, bedtime procrastination. Here's today's quote, The Chinese have called bowel function AoE. I said that wrong nevertheless or revenge bedtime procrastination, the phrase which could be translated as retaliatory staying up late spread rapidly on Twitter in June after a post by journalist Daphne Kaley. She described the phenomenon as when people who don't have much control over their daytime life refused to sleep early in order to get regain some sense of freedom during the late night hours. That is totally true for me. When I've been busy all day long. I just want 10 minutes to sit on the couch. And in 10 minutes, you can watch a show. You can't finish a movie. You can't do anything over there get 10 minutes of channel flipping for my wife. She reads a book. She didn't even read a book. She puts a book to her face. And it falls and she falls right over without having read a page. Do you connect it all with this idea of revenge? bedtime? procrastination? Yeah, I


Andrew Keller

definitely do. One of the things that I feel like even if you do get enough sleep, you feel like you don't get enough sleep. So that's kind of a Sunday, we can get into more later. But what I used to work for someone else, I guess, the nine to five job, I would definitely stay up later than I needed to because I was like, Well, I didn't do anything all day, I'm going to watch another episode of House Hunters, because I'm not going to be able to enjoy stuff. So like I'd go to work and maybe have like a networking thing at night. And then I'd come home and it'd be like nine o'clock before I could start anything. And then that was like, I want me time. I don't have that now. And it still takes a little bit of me just to say I need to go to sleep, because I'm going to appreciate it more tomorrow. And also know that I get up pretty early. So I've changed. But I definitely relate to that. Because if your time is not your own, you have to it's like a small way of being like this is what I want to do.


Larry

Yeah, I mean, there's 1000 different better ways to put yourself to sleep. Right? I google that transition into bands like quiet reading, low impact stretching, listening to soothing music, relaxation exercise, like that's what you should do at the end of the night.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, there's all sorts of studies to about blue light from your phone that like messes with you being able to fall asleep. I don't know if that's true or not. I don't have trouble falling asleep. I do have a question though. Do you feel like you get enough sleep? Because the recommended eight hours I feel like more and more studies have been coming out about like, everyone needs a different amount of sleep. And I don't know, I don't think I get eight hours and I'm


Larry

I'm doing all right. But it's funny because I was as a what person do I know that goes like, You know what? I sleep the exact amount. I'm perfect. I'm great on sleep? I don't know that many people?


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I don't know. I find that when I get more more sleep than I normally do. I still feel a little bit groggy. So I'm not sure what, what you really even need and also different people. I think you and I are both able to take naps. Nicole is not able to take a nap. So there's different ways. Like if I don't get enough sleep, I'll I'll take a 10 minute nap. And I'll be fine. But that's a whole thing in itself is being able to get up after a 10 minute nap. That's difficult.


Larry

Well, you know, and I always hear the stories of people coming back from Spain, where they like go to dinner at 10 and everybody goes to bed at one goes to work and then come home and the whole town takes a nap for two hours. So it's like built into the body to be able to do that in some spots around the world.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, when I lived in Argentina I did that we would we meet for dinner like 10 or 11 be like oh, let's get there early like to before the club starts going. You Yeah, that's a that's a hold everything.


Larry

You know, for me, though, at the end of the night kind of thing. And I'm assuming some people connect with this. For the first time all day long. My house is quiet. nobody's talking to me. I have control over the TV. If I want there to be an F bomb played well, on the show that I'm watching. I get to do that. So for me there's this great peaceful moment of 10 minutes of quiet with the TV because I control my destiny. Kind of what the article saying, and nobody else is around me.


Andrew Keller

Do you just the term retaliatory staying up late get back like resonate with you? Like, are you being like, this is mine or is it like, Okay, this is nice. I'm going to take advantage of it because the way this article reads is more of people being like, hey, morning self. Screw you. I'm gonna do whatever I want. Versus like, this is what I need to relax before I fall asleep.


Larry

Yeah, right. I like this. The Revenge bedtime. Procrastination, the revenge is on yourself.


Andrew Keller

Right? It's on future you.


Larry

Tomorrow, you? I totally I totally resonate with this. I when I read this, I was like, Man, this is me to a tee. Like I'm, I totally it. Yeah, it's just procrastination, right? Once again, probably reading a book would be better. There's 1000 different ways of what I should be doing. But I'm like, I want this 10 minutes for me. calgon Take me away. You know what I mean?


Andrew Keller

Yeah. And I think for people that have a specific time, they have to get up to do something. I guess if you have kids, or I mean, you are one of the biggest examples you get up at 434 30. ish. Yeah, yeah, there's like a very direct correlation on when you go to sleep versus when you wake up like I could, I could bleed into staying up later. And it's not as big of a deal. But like, they're also talking about a lot of people are doing this one. One guy was I wrote it down. He, if he wants, he takes his night classes and does social stuff at work and stays up till two every day. And so there's some version of making hay while the sun shines, like take advantage of of your time. And if you work, you can't really advance yourself. So there's a little bit of a go getter ness to it as well.


Larry

The times I feel stupid about this is when I just flat out fall asleep on the couch, like maybe once or twice a month on a Friday, Saturday morning or Saturday, Sunday morning. I'll just wake up on the couch, and I'm like, Damn, and then my necks all cranked and I'm like, oh, man, I should have just gone to bed.


Andrew Keller

Yeah. There's another another girl from this article. I think it's gybing. She says, My friends and I we Converse a night. And sometimes we write songs together. It's quite peaceful. So maybe next time before you want to try to get some f bombs, call me up on zoom, and we can write a song together. That'd be nice. Well,


Larry

it looks the best thing that I want to point out in this article. Matthew Walker wrote a book why we sleep unlocking the power of sleep and dreams. He's a neuroscientist, and he basically said, the shorter you sleep, the shorter your lifespan. I mean, like he knows, like, if you don't sleep a lot, you're gonna die.


Andrew Keller

Yeah. And also with the with the pandemic, I not to make this about COVID. But a lot of the stories you hear about people getting really bad were people that were like worn down, or I mean, I didn't talk to that many people but like comedians that been on the road early in March, they got it and they were wrecked. There's one guy Michael Yo, he was in the hospital for like a week or two and he was just his not sleeping means your immune systems deteriorated. So yeah,


Larry

that could be anything that's cold. There could be the flu. That could be you know, all sorts of things.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, so maybe, if you're listening to this, go to bed right now. Every posted podcast on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, share the show with a friend I made killer for sleepy bear and thanks for stopping by.


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