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Never trust a computer you can’t throw out a window.

Andrew

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Andrew Keller

Every morning, Larry and I dig into a form or idea that has caught our eye. Our hope is that our chat inspires you to never stop thinking and possibly challenges you in a new way. If you'd like to help support the show, please visit patreon.com slash reposted. Thank you for stopping by. Well, last week, Apple announced all their new products that are coming out this year, which is an exciting time. I remember in 2006, I think it was six when the Apple iPhone first came out. I remember I was on a Muni bus on my way to work and I saw someone on an Apple phone, I thought that was so cool. Anyway, all this apple tie got me thinking I got a quote from Steve was niak. He says Never trust a computer, you can't throw out a window. I think there's this interesting thing happening in our society right now, or specifically Western culture, is that we look forward to these new product releases. And we love the features and the convenience. But then, on the flip side of it, we're like, Why is everyone trying to track everything we're doing? Why do I get pop up ads? Because I searched for something in Google. And I don't know what it's like to be able to? I don't understand. You can't have it both ways. So I mean, I'm of the mindset I've bought into the system where I get the convenience. And people can use my data because I don't have to give it to him. I don't have to have a smartphone. Do you trust the system? Or do you try to stay off the grid,


Larry

and I'm fully on the grid. I feel like I've gotten a little bit of taste to this, because I've been in broadcasting for a little bit of time. And so I've whatever I've sort of said, I felt for the last 20 years it was going out to the public. So I kind of live my life that way, kind of digitally. And everything. Like I just assume everything I say do whatever people can see at any particular point.


Andrew Keller

I think that's an interesting thing to teach people is that everything that you say can and use can and will be used against you. Especially the PA I mean, the whatever you write online, or whatever you do, I trust computers, and I don't want to throw them out the window. So why isn't the ag needs to calm down? I think,


Larry

I think what is the technology? And what purpose is it sort of using for you I remember early on when me and my wife were first dating. That was when MapQuest was a big deal, right meeting you had before that was like Thomas guides and getting us an actual map by me when we were dating and she would MapQuest everywhere she would go and she wouldn't know which direction she was going, she would just know exactly what the printed page told her. And I was like, Hey, how about you figure out what north south east and west is, and kind of go and actually learn what direction you're going, as opposed to following something step by step. And I feel like we've lost that a little bit with technology. Like we don't really know how to do things. We just know what our computer tells us.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, like Nicole doesn't know how to get home from three blocks away unless she types it into Google Maps. But I think that is that's more of a personality trait than it is something else. Like some people, I can't learn anything about plants. I don't want to I can't, I've tried, some people can't learn directions. And I think I've accepted that as a thing. It's, I think you're either inherently that's something you do or something you not, that you're not going to be good at. But it's a different topic.


Larry

What's interesting with technology, you know, I find it most interesting with my kids, and they really do not care if you now get a problem right or wrong in math, they don't care that at all. They actually care how you did the problem. So it's they want to see where they're coming from. And I think that's the idea with technology, whatever it is like, hey, do you know what you're doing? You know what the computer is doing for you? I think most people just hop on and go like, this magical box randomly does everything. And it was sort of that way with us with calculators. Now it's that way with computers or whatever it might be.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I think it's also if you're a digital native or not, like if you grew up under, like not having computers or not having the internet versus being younger, because there is the darkness. I mean, there's a lot of dark sides to technology. But if you have an addictive personality, you can get to get addicted to a game you can get addicted to all sorts of different things. So I think that's that's a another version of not being able to trust it.


Larry

Do you think most people understand today, though, that everything is not like directly on their computer that everything is in the cloud? Do you think the average person goes like that? Most people don't get that?


Andrew Keller

I would say the like kids and people over 60 don't get that. Yeah, I don't know what the majority of people is. But yeah, people are like I press a button. It happens. I pressed it again today and it's not working. Yeah,


Larry

I've just found I find great relief in the fact that if I lost my phone because I lose things that it's there for me. But then it also horrifies me that if I lose something, it's always going to be there in the cloud.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, it always be there. I mean, I had a experience of Nicole and I were driving somewhere on Saturday. And we're like, we need to buy a plane ticket. So she gets on her phone opens an app and books, two plane tickets, made us we reminisced about growing up, it's like you couldn't do that you had to call someone I remember Southwest when it first started. The way you got your boarding card was you showed up to the airport and a one was the first person to show up at the gate. So you could be the first one on the plane, but you had to show up two and a half, three hours early. Now it's who can click their button fast enough 24 hours in advance.


Larry

You know, just before we get out of here, I think was the UK is a really fascinating person that they sort of attribute this quote to him. The fact that he said, he built computers, that was his life, he built arguably one of the first ones. And then he was like, You know what, I built this great thing, but I'm willing to just chuck it out the window. I kind of really respect that it's a really kind


Andrew Keller

of a fun quote. Well, I think it also has it provides insight into you understand more than the average person does. And that's maybe why he wants to throw it out. My brother works on the spaceship and I was like, hey, if you had a free ticket to go on the spaceship, would you go on it? And he's like, No. Because it's inherently not safe because he understands that whereas I might be like, wow, it's a plane. Some smart people built it is his most famous quote is, I don't know who signed off on that railing. So he never leans on a railing because he doesn't trust other structural engineers, which is great. Maybe that's a different show to


Larry

like, for historical perspective, like did Benjamin Franklin say like never trust a quill? You can't just toss out a window or a caveman? Did you say like, never trust a wheel? You can't throw out a cave is that what would they ever say? Yeah,


Andrew Keller

no one Ryan said don't trust a baseball that you can't throw it. Robin Ventura. Well, if you want to get an A baseball fight, please reach out. Or if you found this episode or any other episode, interesting, share it with a friend. You can find us at repost the podcast on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. I'm Andrew Keller for Nolan Ryan's and thanks for stopping by


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