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My Octopus Teacher


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Andrew Keller

Every morning Larry and I dig into a form or idea that has caught our eye. Our hope is that our chat inspires you to never stop thinking and possibly challenges you in a new way. If you'd like to help support the show, please visit patreon.com slash reposted. Thank you for stopping by.


Larry

Mr. Keller, a recent great documentary came out on Netflix just at the end of last year called my octopus teacher. I watched it with my entire family, including my third kid being eight years old, and we all loved it. The summit up in one sense, dude becomes friend with an octopus. It's a real story. wildlife photographer Craig foster starts free diving off the coast of Cape Town in a kelp forest and runs into this tiny octopus. He goes back every day and they sort of formed this relationship. They actually don't like eat dinner together, but they really do sort of form this connection man and an octopus. It's a great story. It's a family story. Have you ever become friends with an octopus?


Andrew Keller

Yeah, when I was in third grade, I had an octopus buddy that used to walk me to school. But that was only for third grade. I


Larry

haven't seen him since I read a great article about the movie called life lessons from the movie, my octopus teacher but by Ashley rendsburg. on medium. The first lesson is this. Stories take time. The water up South Africa is cold. So it takes Craig foster a year just to get used to the coldness of the water because he wants to go out natural and not wear a wetsuit stories take time to develop because well, the dude is also trying to become friends with a mollusk. In this day and age that we live in. We all want things right away, right? We want our packages from Amazon right away. Our email responses a text money from Venmo this movie is a good reminder that your story your life sometimes to be compelling. Takes a little bit of time to get worked through.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he went into the process, trying to become friends with an octopus, but it ended up turning into that I think kind of the point was like he was trying to get a reset on life and figure stuff out and Mike stumbled across it and, and diet quote, diving into unknown waters is what he did, which, which turned out to be really cool.


Larry

I saw this interview with Davi Diggs, he was one of the original cast members, I use the story a lot of Hamilton. He's the I think he plays Thomas Jefferson, and somebody else, he's a rapper from Oakland. And he says that all of a sudden, he got all this success from Hamilton, but he didn't have any success in his acting career before that. And if you could tell his younger self, one thing would just be like, be more happy with the process. Like we always want the next thing and we want it to come quick. But sometimes things in life take a long time to get to. And that once again, is really hard to just enjoy the process in this day and age that we live in.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, his process was interesting to me. I mean, like he, he glossed over that it was arbitrarily he didn't want to wear a wetsuit, and he didn't want to have scuba gear, which is like an interesting thing when you decide you're going to spend every day in the water. But I don't know, I don't know if I enjoyed the documentary.


Larry

So are there things in life where you say, you know what, I maybe could have slowed through that a little bit longer. Let that come to me. Or I mean, you're just the your, I mean, your motto is do it. So, I mean, is there ever been Have you recently thought of it, maybe it's during the pandemic? You know what, I'm gonna enjoy it like this house process for you For crying out loud. You're just killing things and making it go quickly. But I suppose that has to go quickly.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I don't want to enjoy that process. I want it to be over. So yeah, for doing I don't know. I think that kind of the main thing that was the parallel I see in my life is like he didn't know what he was going to get into. And he went, he just like, started doing something. And I guess the universe revealed itself to him. He's like, this is what you should be doing. A little backstory on the movies. He was like an editor and filmmaker, and he's like, I've had enough I'm working too much. I got to get back to nature and then getting to nature made him want to pick up his camera again. So it's like, start doing something, even if you don't know where it's gonna take you. And if you listen, you'll be able to see which direction you should go in.


Larry

I like this live lesson. good stories take time to develop. Think about your story in the longer verse. All right, so we also live in a world in which scale in other words growing bigger, matters more, right? I mean, the jumbo meal, megabytes of data, bigger stadiums, Jerry Jones, this movie says, look for the small thing, spend time on the coral reefs of life's searching for the tiny octopus. Big, big big, this author saying look small.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I think it's like you Use I don't know, if you do anymore you used to sit on your front porch and look at a tree is I think it's being able to slow down and look at what's going on around you is is a nice thing to do. But I don't know, I guess my kind of against what this guy did, I would have worn I would have worn scuba gear, I would have been arguing maybe he was less prepared, there was a shot where like he was watching something happen is like I missed this because I had to go up to take a breath. But I think I this sentiment of just like going for it and seeing what happens is is good


Larry

to me. You want to do in a different way. But you understand the idea of what he was trying to do. He was trying to go into this natural environment, and not have scuba Gill scuba gear. And he says, like he wanted to be just one of the fishes on the reef. So he trained to take deep breaths. Like, I understand you would do it a different way. But you get the artistic vision of what he was trying to do, though, right?


Andrew Keller

A little bit. But I mean, having that camera with him is pretty jarring is I guess maybe the scoop of leaves more of an imprint with the amount of bubbles and breath stuff coming. Also, I don't know. Maybe, maybe I'm too dependent on on oxygen, but it probably I don't know if it made a better product or not. It was really interesting. But that was the whole thing. I kept thinking I was like, man, why don't you just put scuba on?


Larry

Yeah, and but sort of to push back on your idea though, it takes him a year to do whatever this is that he doesn't know what it's gonna be because A, he doesn't wear scuba gear and has to adjust to the water. And he doesn't know what he's going for. And so there's only a great story if he takes his time. That's the only reason. I mean, who knows because he has scuba gear on the bubbles scare off the octopus, and we never have a story. Yeah.


Andrew Keller

I think yeah. So you said this quote, diving into unknown waters, we tend to arm ourselves with equipment and kind of goes on, I think there's two folds, like you need to be able to be willing to take a plunge and just plunge and just like move forward or press ahead. But also, like you said, on the small things, be aware enough to notice the small things to be able to slow down for a second because like he could have very easily missed this octopus, there would be no movie, but it's like he took the big step of like, I'm going in the ocean every day. And this is what I'm doing. So it's like move forward, but also kind of be in a physically ready stance to be able to adapt.


Larry

Yeah, and that's one of the lessons expose yourself. And just to kind of finish that quote, it says, diving, letting yourself adapt to the new environment and not expecting it to adapt to you. I mean, type a people like my wife go in. And we recently got a new place and she wants to arrange the furniture, she wants to buy the furniture before we even got into the new place. She wants it all set up. She wants everything perfect so that life can move on so that we can have the perfect house. But other advice we've gotten and I've gotten is like to live in it unfinished, so that you can let things kind of come to you and settle as it comes. So you're adapting to your environment, not just it adapt. You're adapting to the environment, not about money, but the reverse of whatever that means.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I mean, it makes you more aware when you're like adapt when when you adapt to the environment versus trying to force it. Like if you've ever traveled abroad, like if you just like observe the different cultures and kind of go with that you're going to have a better I would say traveling experience than being like, well, I need to find the Hard Rock Cafe because that's what I normally like, I'm gonna go to Japan and get a hamburger. That's not you adapting to the new environment. So with a house or traveling, there's many ways that you can do that,


Larry

you know, that's kind of my approach. Like, I really don't like going to museums. I'm not big on like the tourist attractions. But every time I've gone abroad, whether it be like Italy or Switzerland or wherever, I love just sitting in a cafe and watching people like seeing how people do live in a different country. That's my favorite part. See now people dress how they walk, how they eat, not necessarily standing in some line for two hours. Now, if you go to France get to go to loop, I suppose. or Chicago, you get to go to the Sears Tower, but I just love seeing how people go through daily life.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I mean, I've talked about it before. Back to back years, I took trips. One was a three month five country trip where I was moving every like five days. And there was another one where I lived in one country for three months. And I definitely learned about a lot more about the country and myself when I was adapting to the environment versus I would argue the American way of traveling where you move in all the time. So take three months off and go live in a different country.


Larry

Yeah, the American way of living or traveling is like Dude, where's the McDonald's? I gotta get a burger.


Andrew Keller

It's aggressive. It's very aggressive. Well, if I'm going to supersize your meal, you can please reach out. Find us at repost the podcast, Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram I made Killer walrus.


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