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Life is infinitely complex and ultimately simple at the same time.


Andrew

This is re posted.


Andrew Keller

Every morning Larry and I dig into a form or idea that has caught our eye. Our hope is that our chat inspires you to never stop thinking and possibly challenges you in a new way. If you'd like to help support the show, please visit patreon.com slash reposted. Thank you for stopping by.


Larry

Alright, Mr. Keller for most of modern life, scientists, people in the know believe the dinosaurs sort of just evolved their way off the planet. It was only in 1980 that a giant Meteor theory appeared. It's now widely expected that a giant Meteor wipe dyno off the earth they found where that Meteor hit, it's in Mexico. It left a ring 120 miles long and 30 miles deep. It's kind of in theory, sorry, Donald's your bones are fun to look at. But piece, but what would a real Meteor look like smashing into a planet in 1984, scientists got to watch comet Shoemaker levy nine slam into Jupiter. They watched it in real time, it broke off just a tiny piece the size of a small mountain hit Jupiter. It struck with the force of 6 million megatons seven to 75 times more than all of the world's nuclear bombs combined, and left a mark the size of Earth on Jupiter. The universe is a crazy place. Which brings us to our quote today. Life is infinitely complex, and ultimately simple. At the same time, as Shoemaker levy nine was slamming into Jupiter in 1994. I was slamming beers in the Lambda Chi frat house, without a care in the world. There are crazy meteors flying all over the world, all of the time slamming into planets. yet here I sit drinking my Corona. It's a wide, wide universe, Mr. Keller.


Andrew Keller

Okay. Yeah, I didn't know that's where you're going with that. I mean, life is infinitely complex and ultimately simple. At the same time, I think a lot of that is based on just we take things for granted, and then move forward with them like oxygen. And being able to process oxygen breathing. Oxygen is a very complex chemical reaction process. But once I don't have to think about it. So I don't think about it. But if I wasn't breathing right now, I would think about it. And so like you have these building blocks of things that add up and it makes life seem simple. But nothing really is simply happening.


Larry

Has anybody ever told you like the genealogy of how your family came into being like, your mom at this person or your grandpa meant such and such are? You think if you go back in your genealogy, like if that one person didn't meet that turn around that one corner in 1956, I wouldn't be here. Do you ever have like, wow, how did it all happen?


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I mean, I've thought about that. It's kind of like the butterfly effect. Like if you go back in time, and you pick a flower or something, you end up being born in Communist China versus being born wherever you were born. So yeah, I mean, it's just, it's, it's also life is complex, it kind of makes me think of those competitions that they do. And like engineering school, or in high school, where you build a bridge out of like toothpicks, and see how much weight it can hold. And like, all of a sudden, these are popsicle sticks, all of a sudden, it can hold 50 pounds, or whatever. But if you take one, one little stick out, the structural integrity is gone. So like life can be complex, I'm worried about paying my mortgage, I'm worried about paying taxes, I'm worried about whatever, I can step on the street and not pay attention get clipped by a car. That's very simple. My life is over. Right? So it's, it's all these complex things. But if you want to boil it down, it comes down to something simple.


Larry

I once again think it comes down to how do you use that? Like, how do we use the idea that there's a comet slamming into Jupiter. And I'm just a simple person here, trying to make my mortgage every and so my sort of theory that I've kind of come up with, after I heard this quote is that when life is going simple, that's when you need to think about the complex things as in the meaning of life. But when your life is really hard, that's when you need to just focus literally on your breathing. So there's like an ebb and flow of the complex in the simple of life. And it's how you move through things, because I don't think you should go through life and never think of the complexities of everything. But I also think there are times to just focus on your breathing. So it's how you kind of ebb and flow with the universe with those dueling opinions.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I think we've talked about some version of this before is like if you think about your morning I think we were talking about death. If you think about your maternal mortality, all day, you're going to be depressed all the time, I think you need to set time clock it and be like, Alright, I need to move on. And kind of like there's ebbs and flows throughout your day on what you have mental capacity for. And if you're trying to maybe change a diaper, you don't have the mental capacity. Or I mean, that's a weird example. If you're, if you're doing something more technical, if you're trying to drive through traffic, or if you're trying to do something that requires dexterity, you can't be wondering about what's happening outside of Earth, even though it is an interesting thing to give you perspective on your place in the universe.


Larry

Yeah, cuz I would argue the main problem with human beings society today is that nobody spends any time thinking about the complexities of the universe, we just get into our stuff. By the way, I understand if you change your diapers in the middle of the night, and you can't think about anything, I've been there. So I'm down with that. But I feel like we all eventually come to a place where we can watch bad Netflix show, or spend two seconds thinking about how giant the universe is in the random spot that we found ourselves in.


Andrew Keller

Do you think if everybody took five minutes in the next 30 days to think about the universe, will we be a better society? Or do you think it would would make a difference either either way,


Larry

if that happened, we would be in a dramatically different place throughout the world, the United States everywhere? Absolutely. I think nobody spends any time on that.


Andrew Keller

I mean, do you think I think it's that would give the effect of people would be less selfish and less than their own world? I'm curious what you what your take on what that exercise does?


Larry

Well, you know, we talk I feel like every few months or so we have a john Muir quote. And then we talked about nature going in and resetting who you are, where you are nature, just as his way of saying like, okay, reboot, get going. I feel like that sometimes just pondering the universe can also reset who you are. And because, listen, you know, the Capitol Hill protests or whatever went on, you know, those people became so enraged with emotions of how they felt like, don't you think if they would have just all those people there, by the way, I'm just pointing, they're not all bad people. But if they just took five minutes to just take a deep breath, there might have been a different outcome. Maybe?


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I mean, this is completely off the topic. But I think that's, have you ever experienced mob mentality before divorce? I went to Boise State, which is this thing in Texas, where you do a mock government, and they get everyone from all over the state to meet in Austin. And I saw that in full effect that people very rational thinking people, if if everyone to the left and right of them starts doing it, they just go into urban Colorado, there would be riots every year when I was in school. The mob mentality is a strong thing. So it's a little bit off topic. But yeah, taking a deep breath. And that's is can help. No, I


Larry

think, I think the mob mentality is a great example. I have been there and I felt ashamed, because I was part of a mob mentality type thing. And I wish that I had this idea of taking a deep breath and thinking about something else, other than that thing that whipped me into a frenzy.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I guess. Bringing it full circle. Life is ultimately simple and that we have our primal Serengeti, as you would say, reaction to my tribe around me is doing this. I got to do it, too. Even if you academically know it's not the right thing to do. It's easy to get swept up in the chaos of the field when the buffaloes kick in the last second field goal to win.


Larry

Yeah, I mean, I feel like you got to I've been I brushed the field in a football game. I got swept up I had to do it was the right thing. By the way.


Andrew Keller

There was the right thing was


Larry

Colin Kaepernick last game at the University of that I had to do it. Wow.


Andrew Keller

Well, if you want to rush the field after a Packers game, please reach out to Aaron Rodgers his fiance. You can find her on Twitter at reposting podcast. I'm Andrew Keller for multisite Thank you



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