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Andrew

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Larry

Dr. Amy Shah is a wellness and nutrition expert. She is a self prescribed mom doc by day, mom doc by night. She has a new book out. I'm so effing tired. A proven plan to be burnout boost your energy and reclaim your life. You can find her on the Twitter's at Amy Shah, MD, Amy sh H. md. Dr. Shah, thank you so much for coming on today. Let's start with a quote from you. Here it is, you can do all the intermittent fasting, you can stick to your diet perfectly. You can even exercise twice a day. But if you don't heal what's in your heart and your mind, you are still unhealthy. pretty profound words.


Unknown Speaker

Exactly. So this is really the topic of my book. I you know, in this last year, we did almost nothing, yet we were so tired. I


Larry

know we're just a couple of dudes here talking about women. But I feel like a guy should not want to know what you're talking about women, their circadian rhythms, their hormones, all this in the book, I should know about this.


Unknown Speaker

This is completely applicable applicable to both genders. The way I wrote it is that I specially addressed women because in most books, most media articles, most medical studies, women are excluded, or they are talked to. And so what I'm saying is, let's flip the script. Let's talk to women, everybody can get something out of it. I mean, we all have circadian rhythms every human, every animal, every bacteria on this planet has a circadian rhythm, which is so fascinating to me that we are just living beings that are solar power, just like the plants and all the animals, we really do have to live with the sun and the darkness to optimize our health.


Andrew

I'm curious, so you said this is specific, specifically for women like within your target audience? How have you seen the reception of your message between different age groups? Because I feel like I grew up with a certain mindset. And I've adapted, but I would guess that people that are maybe significantly older than me might be less receptive to what you're saying, Have you seen that?


Unknown Speaker

You know, I have gotten really, really great feedback from women. Because exactly what I said before, mostly everything that's talked about, in the world of health, in the world of mindset in the world of basically anything is centered around male studies, or male patients or males. And I think it's fresh and different to be actually talking to a new audience, or talking about things that I've learned from my research things about, you know, the 20 day cycle that every woman has, these are extra things that I have in there. But like I said, There's things, most of this stuff like circadian rhythm, improving your mindset, and your diet is applicable to every single person. But I did add in a few things for our female audience.


Larry

Okay, so we just met, by the way in my closet, but you wrote this book for my wife, she is the hardest working woman I know, she's the hardest working mom, I know. She's always stressed, she's grinding at her job. You say sometimes women use this as a badge of honor. And but but that they can take care of themselves in this process.


Unknown Speaker

salutely I think our culture has made it so that women are wearing many, many hats and trying to do everything so perfectly. And if you are taking time out to refill your own cup to improve your own life, that somehow that you're not working hard enough. And that if you're working yourself to the ground, and you need an emergency mental health vacation, that means that you're doing good job. And we need to change that because in order for us to be actually productive and actually do the work that we need to do. We need to all take care of ourselves in microwaves every day.


Andrew

I started intermittent fasting about five years ago for weight loss and an expected side effect was like the more energy and a lot more focus. I mean, long term like do you see the intermittent fasting being a lifestyle that people adhere to? Or is it like, here's a boost of energy go back to normal? I don't think that's it. But yeah, what do you encourage people with if


Unknown Speaker

well, I tell people that intermittent fasting is good, but circadian fasting is better. So what that means is, if you can sync your intermittent fasting with the light and dark 24 hour cycles, then you're going to get health effects that reflect both. So what that means is, when it's dark out, stop eating, you know, very simple two to three hours before bed. And of course, you know, people from all over the world messaged me, and they say, Hey, I, you know, I'm, I live in a place that is dark, every, you know, 24 seven right now. So, I mean, use that as a rough guide, two to three hours before bed, stop eating fast overnight. And then when you wake up in the morning, maybe you go work out, get some major time, do a little bit before you break your fast and extended from the typical American that only fast eight hours, literally people are eating till the minute they fall asleep, and they're eating the first thing they get out. So I'm just asking you to stretch that time, because that is more biologically and evolutionarily beneficial for our bodies,


Larry

sort of back to my hard working wife, and all that she does, she always could use more energy, and you say a lot of getting energy is from your gut. And what goes on inside? Give us a little a couple of tips.


Unknown Speaker

Okay, I'll tell you this, when people talk about inflammation or poor gut health, your gut is inflamed. And how does that even pertain to energy, I'll tell you inflammation in our body. They it creates signals called cytokines. And these cytokines traveled to our brain and say, time to get tired. So inflammation equals fatigue. So if your gut is inflamed, you're going to be tired, it's a natural signal from our body to heal ourselves, they basically created it, we think that these signals were created, because it's a signal to our brain that we need to slow down and start to concentrate on fixing the problem, right? So my biggest tip to people is really clean up your gut health. And you can notice huge differences in your energy.


Andrew

I heard you did an interview earlier this year, and you said, I don't see myself as a healer, I'm helping you to unlock your inner healer, which I think is really interesting. And that seems to be a paradigm shift that hopefully people will adopt in western medicine. But have you gotten pushback from colleagues are just that idea seems very different from what I think of a typical doctor to say,


Unknown Speaker

yeah, and, you know, the old theory was, don't let anybody do anything at home, because you'll get sued. And you know, you don't want to do that. So just tell them never to do try anything on their own. But what I'm saying is, you know, a lot of people go to their doctor, or don't even go to their doctor, but they feel tired. And they want to try these things, and make sure that they can have the tools to heal themselves. And of course, if there is a prolonged problem, you definitely should still go to your doctor. Home Depot is, you know, for the small fix it items, it's not to redo your house, you know, it's the same concept like you don't want to, if you have profound fatigue, where you can't get out of bed and you have a fever, you're not going to use my techniques of improving gut health, you know, that that's where I think the fear is in medicine is that if you tell people that, you know, they can heal themselves, that they're not going to know, the difference between healing themselves and a severe problem, but I'm saying, Yeah, you do you know the difference. Um, most of us have this kind of insidious fatigue and burnout that's happening, that we want to try to fix. And we've already gotten our physical, I know that it's not like a larger issue.


Larry

You know, one of the things we talk about on this podcast a lot is the story of someone like their journey. And one of the things you mentioned about is, is someone evolving. Just give us the quick thing, how do you know if you're an evolving person? How do you know if you're,


Unknown Speaker

hey, I love that. So one of the things I have in my book is a quiz. I have a quiz in the beginning and every chapter because we don't have great tests, right now to you know, document exactly how good your gut health is, or actually how your energy is, but what I asked you to do is take the quiz, and then take it again, after you've put in the changes. So one of the things you'll notice, obviously a change in your energy, you'll notice an improvement in your focus, you will improve your sleep, you will improve your gut health. And so those are kind of easy check ins for people to know hey, am I on the right track? Or am I kind of doing this and seeing you know, going nowhere with it.


Andrew

I don't think you talked about with the intermittent fasting is get some natural sunlight in the morning. People have their morning routines. Can you talk a little bit or just give advice on? Does black coffee break a fast as tea break a fast like what? What can you get away with and keeping your morning routine?


Unknown Speaker

Absolutely, yeah, you can have your water coffee, lemon water, tea, I even allow up to 40 calories of non sweetener based creamer. So say you want to put in a little bit touch of your almond milk or half in half, but you don't want to go over 40 calories because then you're really kind of getting into that gray zone of are you really in the fasting metabolic zone or are you now you know, doing something else, which is, you know, there are other techniques, such as like, a fat fast where people will have fat they won't have regular food, but I like to be purist because the studies really are on fasting with very few calories, 40 calories or below.


Larry

I can't tell my wife to do anything, but I'm gonna strongly ask her to read your book because it's amazing. Dr. Amy Shaw the book, I'm so effing tired. A proven plan to boost beat burnout, boost your energy and reclaim your life. You can find her on Twitter at Amy Shah, MD. Dr. Shah, we really appreciate you taking some time today.



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