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Andrew Keller

Every morning Larry and I dig into a form or idea that has caught our eye. Our hope is that our chat inspires you to never stop thinking and possibly challenges you in a new way. If you'd like to help support the show, please visit patreon.com slash reposted. Thank you for stopping by. We welcome our favorite guests of the show today, Brandon, double check out his podcast how I got that way. I got that way on Twitter. find it anywhere you listen to podcasts. It's so good. We're gonna look at a quote today or kind of a summary of a quote from William of Ockham, who was an English friar, philosopher and theologian and kind of a Cliff's notes or summary of his Occam's razor is this, the simplest solution is almost always the best. I think this quote sometimes gets misinterpreted is the easiest solutions always the best. I don't think that's necessarily true. Just like with painting your house, like the easiest way to do is to start painting, but the simplest way is like there's dirt on your house. And so you have to deliver more work, wash the dirt off, then paint it. Do you see this playing out in your life as a former educator, as a father as a football fan? What do you think?


Brandon Doble

Yeah, I definitely agree with this. I mean, I love that the word is parsimony, which basically means cheap. So in a sense, it's just being it's being as lean as you can, which I think that a lot of successful companies of the last 20 years or so have gone to this idea of lean movement to like, get rid of things that I was talking to somebody yesterday who had, like 75 VPS of their company of 1500. People I was like, That's ridiculous. Why do you need that many VPS? I think that's what the idea is, is to be as, as as lean as you can. But also, I agree with you 100% on that, just because it's the easiest doesn't mean it's or just because it's the simplest doesn't mean it's the easiest answer. So I like kockums razor I actually saw a band called doc was razor at Berkeley once. I don't know if they're still playing. That was a long time ago. But they were good. They shred they shredded.


Larry

That guy still the Mohawk lead singer?


Unknown Speaker

Did you ever see them?


Larry

I love them a big fan? Yeah, you follow him on Tick Tock a follow up.


Unknown Speaker

You know,


Larry

my question with this, the simplest sushi solution is always the best is what is the best? Like, what is the best decision to make? I think this is like a really interesting dynamic of like, men have a high rate of prostate cancer, right? And there's a big debate of should you get chemotherapy or should you get surgery? So how do you make that decision? If you're a guy, like some people don't want surgery, something? I really mean is like, what is the simplest solution? What is the best solution?


Brandon Doble

it's I think it's the simplest solution for you.


Larry

Oh, my point is, yeah, that's it. It's a very selective thing individually. It's always an individual thing. That's my point.


Brandon Doble

Yeah, I don't think that there's this like quantitative math formula for outcomes razor. I think he's simply saying that when you're faced with choices, choose the simplest choice. And that's probably the best doesn't say is the best choice says it probably is the best choice. And I think about sports injury reference football, I think these coaches who overthink everything, it's like they they get so schematic and your boy Chip Kelly, UCLA, he runs for plays, he just runs four plays over and over and over again. It seems really complicated, but it's actually not it's very simple. I think that's kind of what it means. I'm not sure that you can use the the prostate cancer example perfectly, because I think it would be you know, I mean, you're gonna sit down with your doctor, and they're gonna give you advice based on experience. And maybe that's in New York case, it's going to be chemo and somebody else's case, it's going to be, you know, surgery. I think that's the that's the easiest answer.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I mean, it applies to sports is interesting. I think of Moneyball and the Oakland A's do this very complicated, advanced analytics of sports, they still haven't won a World Series. But like on something that applies to maybe more people is the American diet industry. We spend billions of dollars on who take this supplement and drink this shake and do this and that and everyone's selling you on the best way to do it. But the end of the day, the simplest answer is diet and exercise, like eat properly and do what you should be doing. There's not a simple way to do it. So it's, it just kind of always boils down to like, I see it. If I think of anything like you can give me any subject. I think it's like with acting, which is highly subjective. But when actors try too hard, you're like, Ah, it looks bad and simple is better. So it just applies across the board.


Larry

I'm sort of sub uttering the word decision for solution, so the simplest decision is always is almost always the best. So that goes back to how do you make decisions. Some people just trust their gut, which is we just talked about this week. That's the best because it's the easiest, most quickest decision. Some people ask other people, some people pray. So then I really feel like it comes down to how you individually go through solutions or make decisions.


Brandon Doble

I think it also you guys had to show this week on billionaires, whether they're happy or not like whether it was you know, you make more money. Are you happier? And you guys concluded that no one factor not I think it's sort of the same as this. It's like, it's because their lives get more complicated. They, they have more stuff to deal with. And it complicates your life. So are you in I think you guys said I'd like By the way, I'm for the $150,000 guaranteed salary, I would be perfectly happy with how you talk. I was like, 150 grand, I'm in the, but I think that's sort of the point is that finding that balance the archives raisers finding a balance to make things where you want to catch a mouse, right? So you can come up with like, go buy thing that uses like high frequency noises, or you could buy a wooden mousetrap? That's like 25 cents that does the same job. I don't know. Maybe that the simple mousetrap is the best solution to your mouse problem.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, I think another example is food. And this is from the TV show, parks and rec is the Rob Lowe character is like a high strung supplements and all this stuff. And he's like, I'm gonna make the most delicious burger from tofu and like he spends all day puts all sorts of stuff into it. And then the Ron Offerman character who's just kind of a stereotypical male says, alright, this is a beef on a bun. And everyone's like, Oh, this is better. This is better. So it's like, even with food, like if you do things simply in right, like, we all know that if you buy quality ingredients, it's going to taste better than if you try to save money. And when you look back at it, well, yeah, that was the most simple solution.


Brandon Doble

Did you have a mixed metaphor on the name? Ron Offerman, Ron Swanson, Nick Offerman.


Unknown Speaker

I like them. That's


Brandon Doble

good. I think give him that name. Yeah, I like to shotgun pointing at the person in the chair. That's my favorite solution to all problems.


Andrew Keller

I think basically what we're coming up with instead of listening this show, go to Netflix. Yeah. Parks and Rec. So Ron Offerman, Nick, gotcha. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. Brandon. Check out how I got that way on anywhere you listen to podcast. I'm Andrew. For Larry and Brandon.


Unknown Speaker

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