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Endless unrestrained and often silly buying of gifts


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Larry

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Mr. Killer, it is time for the holiday season. And to get things going, I got a quote from Harlan Miller that says probably the reason we all go so haywire at Christmas time with the endless unrestrained and often silly buying of gifts is that we don't quite know how to put our love into the world. Once again, that's from Harlan Miller. My point today was just to kind of talk about like, the the calendar hits December one. And I want gals to kind of just see the backside of a water the water for a moment, like how's a grown man supposed to react to the holiday season?


Andrew

That's such a macro take like a grown man, a grown man could be 18 and single totally agree to three kids.


Larry

But like for you, let's just start with you. With the holiday season.


Unknown Speaker

I mean to me,


Larry

like when when when December comes in? Are you like yay, whoa, are you laying out? Jeez.


Andrew

I think I'm somewhere in between, I'm probably closer to Yay, woohoo. I think once you get to a certain age, or maybe you get a certain personality that you don't really want, you don't need gifts anymore. I'm at a place in my life where if I want something, I'm able to get it. So for me, the holidays aren't about looking forward to getting any gifts. It's about spending time with family and a reminder to reconnect with people. They really


Larry

mean that. Yeah. Like getting together with fit. Well, part of that, don't


Andrew

you understand?


Larry

Like, do you know because I just feel like the holidays to me have just become like busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, except for by the way in a pandemic, right? It's Christmas parties. It's work parties, it's getting present, it's going to someone's house. It's just seems like it's buisiness


Andrew

it is that but I think the rest of the year is busy, busy, busy. And it's busy, busy, busy about me. And I think, say December one through the end of the year or the beginning of January, these holiday parties are busy and to take a lot of your mental energy. But it's like you're forcing yourself to reconnect with people that if there wasn't holidays happening, I wouldn't connect with him at all. So there's some people that I see once a year and that's and talk to once a year. And that's because of the holidays. And I appreciate that.


Larry

And I just I meant to do this as cathartic for me as a point of information or a confession. About two Christmas seasons ago, I felt like I was drunk for 21 straight days of Christmas. It was like ackermans, then the chili party. Then Bosch is part like honestly, I remember looking back like, Damn, I don't think I could do another one of those. It was insane.


Andrew

Yeah, for a long time, I would do dry January every January because there were too many parties. But like I guess back to the quote, people, the thing that kind of stick up stick out to me was like the endless unrestrained and often silly buying of gifts. And to me that I thought of the love languages, you have the words of affirmation quality, time acts of service gifts and physical touch. And I think the reason that Harlan Miller is thinking about that everyone's giving gifts is because the world says around the holiday time you have to give gifts. And so even if that's not your love language, even if you don't express your feelings towards someone in that way, you're like, well, this is what I'm supposed to do. And so you do it,


Larry

you be gift giver.


Andrew

I love giving gifts, if they make sense. I don't want to give something out of obligation. But I'm like, Oh, this is a cool thing. I want to give it to this person, whether it's because of a birthday or Christmas or whatever, I rather do it when I see it versus Oh, here's a milestone.


Larry

I completely agree with that. But sometimes at Christmas, we feel that we have to give a gift to someone specifically. So what happens if you don't have a gift for that person? You specifically have to give a gift to a brain store. I


Andrew

mean, I mean, I guess sometimes you're saying you pick names out of a hat and you're assigned to Uncle Robert and you have to give him something. I don't know. I just think about what I think that person's life is like if if you told me I had to give a gift to maybe fan of the show. I'm not sure Jason goals. I'm not close with him. I would just sit and think about like, what's important to him. I know he likes soccer. Maybe I would do something soccer related like I you know, I think I break down. If I had the same interest in that person, what would I want? And I tried to do it that way. How do you give gifts?


Larry

Well, here's the thing. I'm completely overwhelmed by gift gifts, honestly because and I knew I knew that about myself kind of when I met my wife and I we decided when we were dating We're never given each other either birthday presents or Christmas gifts and we donate it Christmas, we donate to a cause for each other because I get disappointed in gifts and gifts that get. And I usually am too fretting about the present that I'm going to give. So I just said for the person, that's mostly my life, we just eliminated that. And we don't give gifts. And we mainly don't give gifts to our kids as well. They use the gift from grandparents in other ways, Santa's, but I just am not a great gift giver. And so I've kind of had to eliminate that.


Andrew

I fancy myself a good gift giver and a terrible gift receiver. I don't like receiving gifts, I don't like the attention. I looking back on holidays in the past, I've looked forward to seeing the people open the presence, I'm excited about more so than whatever I received. Like, there's probably there's one gift I remember, I got a Gameboy in the 80s. And that was something I was very excited to open. But other than that, like I like it, but I prefer to watch someone open and my like kind of the charity thing, my brother does a thing where they don't give their kids gifts, they give them experiences, like we're gonna go on a trip to mammoth. Yep, versus I'm gonna give you a Nintendo Switch


Larry

that ends up in a closet that they don't necessarily want after. Yet, the gift thing is interesting. I like your idea of that, why can't every 365 day be 365 days be a chance to give someone a gift, like if you see something and that's all that's perfect for this person you get it from then, as opposed to like having to wait to December to give someone a gift. And they maybe don't want it. And it's not the right thing. It's just useless piece of crap.


Andrew

Yeah. And I guess back to the 365 days a year, think about if you wanted to have people over for dinner in May, how much coordination Karen would have to do to get people to come over versus Hey, have a holiday party on December 14, people are gonna like it just like oh, that's a, you do it. And it may be out of obligation and things may be too crowded. But I like the fact that it's forcing you to get together because you're not going to do it otherwise. And then,


Larry

though I shipped oil who we had on our sales guy a couple of weeks ago or so, he said, If you really want to have an impact with your holiday card, you wouldn't send it during the holidays, you'd actually send it in maybe because you get 1000 Christmas cards from people during the holidays and you look at and go That's nice, and you put it away. If you really wanted someone to study your family, you'd send it me


Andrew

yes and make it more personal, right. Like I have a guy that has in my life through sales and I get recipes from him like once a quarter in a mailer. And I guess I appreciate the thought of it. And I guess I remember him but it's not personalized. So receiving something isn't necessarily. It feels like it's out of obligation. And I don't necessarily like that.


Larry

I definitely always have a because my wife when the holidays come she like starts pulling out the ornaments getting the trees doing like kind of nestling. She listens to Christmas, she just kind of Amelie gets into the season. And as a grown man, when the hot December comes, I'm always like, What do I do? It's all right. And I'm supposed to go to a party and drink some spiked eggnog and say some stupid stuff. But uh, I definitely just I'm always trying to like how is a grown man supposed to react? Come December.


Andrew

I have a theory and I want you to confirm or deny it. I think you love giving white elephant presence.


Larry

Yeah, because you know why just to go into the closet gets get rid of something. It's like spring cleaning to me.


Andrew

You don't like the idea of giving something wild and wacky I like


Larry

I do but like it's usually something from like my refrigerator that's been sitting there for six months or something. Just get rid of.


Andrew

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