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But the idea of a dream job is still catnip


Andrew

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Larry

You know, Mr. Killer, we have not been able to be in person because of the world that's going on. But my wife is on a crazy binge. She literally painted every single room in our house, she redid the cabinets, she had the floors clean, and we are redoing the kitchen floor. It seems like most people are sitting in their house all the time. And they're rethinking everything, including, like maybe what they should do with the rest of their life. Our quote today is, comes from an article in the New Republic and it's the idea of a dream job is catnip. The Economic Policy Institute calculates that the pandemic has left nearly 16% of the workforce, roughly 27 million people unemployed, or employed but losing hours. So people are thinking, hey, what should I do out of the pandemic? Maybe I should go look for my dream job. This fun, funny article makes fun of dream jobs, like a matches for an internship mooches sleep for a living or a cookbook recipe tester. Here's the question, do you think dream jobs it gets it exist? And should you go look for one?


Andrew Keller

I mean, well, first off, did you change pink colors or she did repainting the same color.


Larry

And slight change, slight change? Just a little bit different?


Andrew Keller

I think I think dream jobs do exist. But I think it's maybe a little bit of a misnomer. Because even if you get this quote, dream job, I think what a lot of people that use that word aspire to is getting paid a lot of money and not working very hard. I think the dream job is when you work hard and get satisfaction. Like I think being a professional athlete is what a lot of people would say a dream job is but the amount of work and effort that goes into the front end of becoming a professional athlete is so hard that people don't want to do that. So I think people want to say this. That's why people to win a lottery go bankrupt is because you need to be doing something. So yes, I think they exist, but I don't think they exist. And what people use that term as


Larry

you know, as you were talking to me, hit me right dream jobs are parallel to like, have people's half lives on social media, we only see the good things that they're doing, we see those great pictures, but then they're probably yelling at their kids on the off time. Whereas, like you said, with professional athletes, for instance, all the hours, the injuries, the time they put into their craft, we don't see that we just see them lifting the trophy at the end.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, we've talked separately, I don't think we've had a discussion with each other on the Tiger Woods documentary, like he put in so much work. And he's didn't have a normal life. And he's kind of a weird person on the other side of it. But that trade off made him arguably the best golfer of all time. So it's like, we're kind of getting off on a tangent of like, what takes what it takes to get a dream job. But also in the article talked about the in San Francisco, these people they put out to be caretakers of this lighthouse and they got 6000 applications and they followed up with the people that got it later. And they're like we work 90 hours a week to maintain this place. And sure they're making $120,000 combined to live in a free place. But like it takes work, you know,


Larry

yeah, some of the like real life dream jobs. People often talk about Park Rangers, zookeepers and pilots but how many hours you have to put into play by yourself to get the flight tend to be a pilot or park rangers are sometimes seasonal jobs. You don't you don't you'd like sleeping in your car to be a park ranger. So we think those are great jobs, but half the time they're not. Well,


Andrew Keller

they can be if that's what you actually want. But like I know, I know someone that does all three of these jobs Park Ranger, zookeeper and pilot. My friend Jeff is a pilot. I don't think he listens to the show. And all he does is complain about how terrible his company is. And so there's that park rangers like if you want to get a good spot, like there's not much turnover. So you have to be willing to work for free for a while. Let's say you want to work at Yosemite, like people aren't leaving Yosemite as park rangers so it's like I need to volunteer 20 hours a week for free and then be in the mix when when something open so like be willing to put in the work and don't do it for the money. That might be it is a dream job is something that you're willing to do and not get paid for.


Larry

Someone say repost it. I'm just saying. Interesting kind of comparison for Earth sake. Read this in the New Yorker. It said gorillas spend more than 50 hours a week gathering and eating food. So they spend more than the 40 Hour Work Week looking for fruit now you could say we all that's kind of what we're doing working right just to try to provide for For the family.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, and a lot of times like, growing up, I always said, I wanted to be a dentist. And there's obviously a lot of work that goes into that. And I think the appeal of that is the lifestyle. It's not the job, like they make good money, which allows them to spend their leisure time doing things that they like, it's not the job itself. And so I would, I would venture to guess that most dentists would not be willing to work in a mouth, eight hours a day, or 16 hours a week, however much they work for free. But I would say that probably alex rodriguez would have played baseball for free.


Larry

You know, it's funny, because they often in the statistic, they say dentists are the like most unhappy people. Yeah. But my dentist is so damn happy. I'm always like, why you're, this statistic must not apply to you.


Andrew Keller

So as someone that worked as a dental assistant for a while, I think the reason that happens is because you generally only get negative energy in your direction. Like, if you only see the dentist, when they're checking your teeth, and like, okay, everything looks good, then it's fine. But like, people have so much anxiety about seeing the dentist, and that kind of wears off on you. Because the dentist mainly sees, sees people they're actually doing work on and people don't look forward to that. And I think that's the grind of it is that people are always bringing negative energy and that brings you down.


Larry

Part of work or jobs careers is kind of the disconnect. So pre Industrial Revolution, when we were like leather workers or farmers, the harder I worked on my crops, the better I did, the harder I worked on my leathercraft, the better I did. But now the harder you work at your job, sometimes you don't reap the benefits of your work. So there is the disconnect, the harder I work doesn't really make a difference.


Andrew Keller

Yeah, it's the smarter you work, I guess. And I guess back then it was it was more I think white collar jobs, there's diminishing returns on your mental capacity. Like I saw Jeff Bezos in an interview recently as like, he doesn't set his high high IQ meetings after lunch, like, only meet. I mean, he could do that because of who he is. But it's like, at five o'clock, I can't think about that. But time in as a carpenter can't be replaced. Like you have to get those reps in. Whereas like coming up with a creative idea that subjective is a little bit different. So I guess I'm agreeing with you in a roundabout way.


Larry

Lastly, Steve Jobs is a Stanford graduation speech in 2005 said if you love what you do, it's not work. Can any Can everybody do that? Can you know you work a meaningless job, so to speak, so you can pay for the family and the house and the mortgage? Can everybody flip that mindset and be like, you know what, I just want to be content on what I'm doing.


Andrew Keller

I feel like I've said that before. And you've pushed back on the mother of three that works for jobs. So I mean, as your therapist said, in your pre marriage counseling, like it's your choice to, to feel how you feel about it. And whether it's a job you want to do or not. It's your choice to say this is gonna be a fun day. You can trick yourself.


Larry

What was it the last?


Andrew Keller

The last dream job going up before a detective?


Larry

Detective? Yeah, I love Sherlock Holmes.


Andrew Keller

I mean, you're kind of at with asking questions.


Larry

I thought about that a little bit. Yeah. hotel restaurant manager. This is the last thing I think we're kind of skewed from other countries in America in that most countries, not most, but some provide health care. So if you don't like your job, you can do whatever you want for a little while, but you know, you're going to be able to go to the doctor in America, like jobs are where you get your health


Andrew Keller

care. So we're less risk averse to go for our dream job, because our job oftentimes is tied to healthcare. So we don't take as many chances to do our dream job. My natural instinct is to push back against that but that was a big consideration when I quit my my career and I'll push


Larry

it back for you sucker.


Andrew Keller

can't push back this time. Well, if you want to turn your head to the side and cough, please reach out. You can find us every posted podcast on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, I'm Andrew Keller for the cheese saying thanks for stopping by.



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